In short, one should realize that physical healing does not take into account the being and the repercussion on the spiritual beingness of the person., The purely physical facts of injuries, illnesses and stresses are themselves incapacitating and do themselves often require physical analysis and treatment by a doctor or nutritionist. She was a friend as well. Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? Hear Cathy Tweeds version of events. This young woman was crying for help and her mother posted a Facebook message telling people to distance themselves from her. I dont want to put you on the spot, but you are really putting Cathy Tweed on the spot very harshly here. There are MANY viewpoints. Auditing is just counseling. Oh, but I do feel that it is, Alanzo at least a big portion of it but let me explain myself. I sincerely hope that you are not into law, because God help us if you are!!! So much for the anti-Scientology narrative regarding Scientologists not using or seeking proper medical care. She was making contact with family members who had left the church, and expressing her outrage at church fundraising and treatment of SO staff. As you probably know, thats from the Bible quoting Jesus. Either way, your assertions arent factual. Absolutely avoid the question??? Never once was she mean or nasty towards me. But the information presented regarding Tyler Tweed is true, and we found a few threads on Twitter honoring much information about Tyler Tweeds obituary. Mr. Ricky Dale Tweed, age 54, Telford, passed away Wednesday, August 13, 2014 from injuries sustained in an automobile accident. Guest12, of course that the church have committed many Human Rights abuses, and of course that there is truth to those stories. Do you know that something called Critical Thinking exists? Is that an habit of yours to believe in everything you see presented in a TV show, even when no actual facts are presented? That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor.. Your comment was interesting to me. People commit suicide under the care of the best psychiatrists, too, right? A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. They know who they are,, and will leave it at that. James Cooper Jr. Tony Lakeith McCowin. Fortunately, I was able to take the mother of my daughter off the lines after she has been kept for almost 50 hours!!! You guys are cowards and pieces of shit for having her ceremony at Celebrity Center. I am not anti ANYTHING, but I have my own mind about things without having to follow any sheeple or any narratives, . For his hat or role as a psychotherapist he is expected to be trained and properly licensed. Now that Ive checked, my memory was incorrect. . I used to think, Well, Mike is a supporter of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Thought, so he just tries to interfere as little as he can, you know. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. I think the important baseline to keep in mind is the law. I knew the Tweed family. Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. There is no denying that the church is guilty of many abuses even, even if some of those abuses are not exactly illegal. Nice try, Thetaclear. Scientology was. The Ryerson Index. By the way, I found two videos that Cathy Tweed and a friend of hers uploaded to youtube a couple of years ago as a memorial to Tayler. I remember him saying something along the line that a Cult required a leader and some form of organization, and a belief system, and that there just wasnt any coordinated effort with specific leaders to destroy the church. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? As opposed to Laurens Haggis narrative, mine is not hearsay. And that is their right, IMO. We trust that you will find the information listed on this website to be of value to you. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! Thank you Lauren for sitting down with Leah and Mike. TAYLOR BASS OBITUARY. Certainly, if one is sick to begin with, then the HCOPL: Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble applies, specifically on this point : 3. As have many very cruel people before you. A LOT is based on hearsay, which at almost every court of law in the planet would be considered as inadmissible evidence, and for obvious justice reasons. Nice try, Thetaclear. My local AO wouldnt deliver this, instead either hat a family member, or turn it over to a field auditor. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. Now, it is TRUE as in ANY freaking group in society that there ARE some Scientologists that get very fundamentalistic about this, and go to the fucking extremes. Mrs. Tweed was a longtime member of Chestnut Grove Community Church and worked in the health and food industry for several years. I enjoy the show. Harry James Tweed, 65, was a life-long resident of Cape May County, moving to Cape May at the age of seven months, to Rio Grande in 1959, and later to Middle Township. Was your love unconditional. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? He married Nelda Niceswanger on Oct. 27, 1956, in Chetek. Bristol, VA -Leo Tignor Tweed, age 81, passed on Wednesday, April 6, 2022, in Oakmont at Gordon Park. But ask MILLIONS of Americans who are into alternative medicine and natural remedies if they will ever consider using any psychotropic drug, and I am sure that the most probable answer from the GREAT majority of them would be, NO, I would not. To plant Memorial Trees in memory of Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards, please click here to visit our Sympathy Store . Forum software by XenForo 2010-2013 XenForo Ltd. They had Lauren Haggis on, who is a friend of Leahs family, as the vehicle to tell the story. Many critics are so focused on moral issues that they pound away at things that simply do not matter, thankfully, to any government. Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. I used to think up to just 1-2 week ago that Rathbun had gone crazy with this fantasy of his and sort of conspiracy theory about an ASC (Anti-Scientology Cult). Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. Because medical science has advanced since the publication of Science of Survival (66 years), and because these advancements save peoples lives, then it is extremely unethical even from the perspective of a Scientologist to forbid these treatments after everything else has been tried. I am doing this willingly. Why do you think its Cathy Tweeds duty to prostrate herself before you? I my humble opinion, reform IS possible, and even using specific LRHs policies themselves. Obituary Herbert Tayler Architect who designed public housing with people and land in mind Elain Harwood Sun 12 Mar 2000 20.18 EST Between 1945 and 1973 Herbert Tayler, who has died aged 87,. Yes, this mother lost a child, but her son says they tried everything and yet they didnt. Tayler Weldon DeBari November 13, 1986 -. My bad, Alanzo! Unfortunately we have little . Taylor was never shown any kindness this church simply needs to be stopped. I am just curious, I am not challenging you. May 23, 2021 This is Taylor Tweed's mother and brother speaking out about how they feel about Taylor's suicide being featured on A&E's Scientology and the Aftermath. And its the most insidious problem with what Leah and Mike are doing. So we present Cathy Tweeds statement and her memorial video. Did you miss this from my reply? No religion has the freedom to deny medical care that then results in death. No, he DIDNT; read the policies on it. Currently, Tayler Woolston's death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tayler Woolston Obituary and want to get a real update. Now, the anti-Scientology narrative and the anti-Scientologists would attempt us to believe that LRH was only a lunatic who thought that psychiatry was guilty of many Human Rights abuses, and of many abusive treatments; and that ONLY Scientology opposes psychiatry. Their motives for doing this may be more of a legal rudiment, rather than a professed belief in medicine. Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out. This is part of the STANDARD policy to handle, insanity (mental illnesses), what LRH called Sources of Trouble, and physical healing. Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public.. Or you just like the anti Scientology narrative?. She provided financial support while her child chose to try to have a career. Either you are dumb enough to do it or your not. And Im not even past 55 yet! The first time was to get a physical and full check up before the Purif. Or you just like the anti-Scientology narrative? You are way to eager to defend Cathy and this so called church. Ian Taylor, who has died of cancer aged 64, was an international oil trading tycoon who also rescued Harris Tweed and chaired the trustees of the Royal Opera House, of which he was a generous . The only related reference I know of concerns those who have had psychiatric drugs or who have been institutionalized. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. You are defending a woman who dragged her daughter into a mythological realm of nonsense that refused to help her. Are they, really? Ive done a whois search to see who owns the domain and its been made by proxies, which means that whoever runs the website wants to remain private. But I realized that he just DIDNT care if others were invalidating a Scientologist left and right, as long as the attacks werent too viscous or too repetitive from one specific poster. And as to people like my dad, well, Scientology starts as basic self help courses with a strong pop psychology aspect to them. Granted that is probably due to legal reasons. I am so grateful for my amazing parents and brother, whose love is unconditional, and support unwavering no matter how bad or misguided my youth was. I dont think so. Technically, what Mike and Leah are doing IS a documentary. Tayler Woolston Obituary, Death - The North Tonawanda community said a student who had a very special place in their hearts passed away this past week. He died on Wednesday 14th December 2022 leaving behind family in mourning. Those 5 premises inductively lead to conclude that Mike Rinder is NOT after reformation, but after punishment and revenge because his family DECIDED ON THEIR OWN to disconnect from him, but he blames DM for it. Not any longer. I understand. Anyway, my comment above had to do with the notion that the church does not treat the mentally ill. This seems to me like an ASC false datum that fits their agenda and theyve convinced others that its true so now its an everybody know, like so many of their assertions. Date Listed: 23/2/2023. Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. Leah Remini Scientology and the Aftermath, Leah Remini's Scientology and the Aftermath, Scientology Applies to Renew Arrest Warrant for Gerry Armstrong, Interview With L Ron Hubbard's Personal Nurse, The Truth Rundown TampaBay Times Articles, Vanity Fair Article on Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise & Scientology, Scientology and The Death of Kyle Brennan, Chronology of Publications on Scientology. She was regularly having suicidal thoughts and always been sent to auditing or naturopaths instead of to a competent mental health provider. She was a loving mother and enjoyed crafts, cooking, quilting, painting . I wish she had taken counsel and gone to see a mental health care provider, but without health insurance or financial backing, she felt it was impossible. If someone told me I was joining a church I would have run for the door. But if we are going to blame and criticize Scientologists for this, then I am afraid, that we would have to do the same with MILLIONS of Americans, to not mention the other millions from other countries. But maybe others didnt know the true story of how Tony Ortega got that quote from Cathy Tweed. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. But there is a general dysfunction in Scientology technology that treats the brain like no other organ in the body. How many times was I PERSONALLY told about this by the people who had this experience? That Scientology limits its treatment to exercise, PTS handlings and vitamins is very suppressive. Ok Alanzo, thanks! Then you have the standard Scn reference covering EVERYTHING about Assists (Scientology physical healing type of processes) and how to go about it if a PC (Preclear the one undergoing Scientology counseling) gets sick. This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Its certainly an argument I am open to how so? Searching obituaries is a great place to start your family tree research. But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? Come on, how obvious does it have to get? But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. This kind of cruelty is strewn throughout the anti-Scientology community right now, including fans of Scientology and the Aftermath, because that kind of cruel second-guessing was built right into the episode you watched. But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. Then that journalist posts that quote from you on the Internet, and a whole bunch of party-bus sociopaths start going off on that quote and ripping you to shreds for saying it. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). She doesnt stand a chance. Caring for the insane is costly and time-consuming and requires resources. Check that one out too. It is the very definition of suppression. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. E) Getting the person to put his/her MEST in order by giving him one simple step to do each day. There have been manslaughter convictions of Christian Scientists and others who kept their own children from the medical care they needed and ended up in prison. Of course, that he opened his piece sort of validating their efforts, in a SENTENCE. Your baby girl of 27 years killed herself and you're "at peace" with it 72 hours after she leaves this earth forever? But the one thing I disagree with Tony on is that the church had nothing to do with her suicide. The girls drifted apart throughout the latter years of. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. Please, give me a fucking break!!!! Ill believe that until my death. Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. Bullshit. Yes Ms Tweed-we need kindness, love and respectwell said. Truth and fairness are not necessarily part of that equation. You know, thats EXACTLY the problem with the AGREED UPON anti-Scientology narrative, Claire, that you take as facts statements that are NOT necessarily facts, and that ACTUALLY, are assumptions not backed up by ANY evidence whatsoever, but which are mostly based on HEARSAY evidence (someone told me that he heard.. kind of thing). Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. Two years ago, we told you about Tayler Tweed, a 27-year-old Scientologist who had been working on a career in music and acting under the name Tayler DeBari before she killed herself at the home of some friends in Fullerton, California on January 10, 2014. You seem to know that if they only did what YOU wanted them to do that Taylor would be alive today. Funeral arrangements are incomplete by Don Brown Funeral Home in Ayden, NC. Read Today's Notices. Now, looked at from the above clarifications, do you still feel the same way about it? (Collins) Passed away on the 14/01/2023 and will be sadly missed by her whole. If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. Yes that jogs my memory. This check was not exactly an official routine form from the church, but rather something made locally to detect possible Sources of Trouble. With that being said, let's further investigate the truth and . 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