Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). Day and night they go around her upon her walls, And iniquity and mischief are in her midst. Your defense of Moore and Shirer is based only on your own experiences and opinions. The Bible doesnt say anything of the sort. I know they were long and torturous~ especially since youve obviously answered the same questions over and over to others. It would stand to reason that all those that have never heard of Christ have not accepted Him and therefore, as Rom 1 details, they die in their sin. Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? In our modern Free Sermons and Sermon Outlines for Preaching : How To Respond To Newly-Delivered People Who Still Are A Mess. #2- There are a number of resources on false teachers under the Popular False Teachers tab at the top of this page. Thank you! Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. Then please feel free to ask Id be glad to help you or look it up. When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, "Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us." Mark 5:32 Verse Concepts And He looked around to see the woman who had done this. That preaching to and teaching men is a violation of Scripture is also not an accusation, but a statement of fact. INTRODUCTION TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS ARE TO AVOID. A. Did anything frighten you this morning? How I wish I could ask him what he thinks of his heathen saving methods now that he has seen the face of Jesus!). Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. Oops! Maybe Im misunderstanding you, but it sounds like youre saying, Im going to Heaven and thats enough for me. If not, she does not know the Bible well enough to be teaching (James 3:1). In the first approximately 90 seconds of the video you can clearly see and hear men in the audience, and in her introductory remarks, Prisicilla indicates that she is preaching the Sunday service at this church. Morning Service I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will remove your heart . 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. But you have fired a shot across the bow and Im hoping that you will have the courage to further clarify your stand against a sister. Assembly Of God. John 14:1-4, Luke 10:18-20, 1 Corinthians 15:19. read more, Scripture: Evangelical/Non-Denominational. Neil knows much more about New Testament studies than I do, but I'm not sure how far forward we can go with the New Testament, given that most of its writers believed their world was about to pass away. Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip. #2 I wasnt aware that Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine and the Osteens were false teachers! Tools. Hey brother Saiko Woods! The law in this case, being Scripture. Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. If youre in need of suggestions of doctrinally sound blogs for women, go to the top of this page and click on Recommended Bible Teachers. Ive got two lists of 10 up there, and another one coming in the near future. I KNOW this is a looooong series of questions about Priscilla Shirer that was stimulated by your post. I think you are judging and do not agree with you. Some of the points you bring up give me pause. read more, Scripture: NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. Defining moments, we all have them. (Ive addressed that here in case you might be interested.). In fact, the Bible says the opposite. Yes it is the little people or the less known that are standing against these deceptions and I am so glad that you are and there are many more. Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! Did you mean youre unsure whether or not she preaches to men? read more, Scripture: In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. Plus, she has a Bible and supposedly knows it well enough to teach it. Could you please show me the Bible verse that says were supposed to be happy for people who achieve financial and popularity success by twisting Gods word, teaching false doctrine, and walking in disobedience to Him? I think the following articles will be helpful in answering your question: You might also want to take a look at the other articles in my Rock Your Role series. How do we respond to those who are new Christians and who still "smell" of their former sinful lives? #1 You have noted that Priscilla preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures but I cant find the link. One thats not a promotional tape? My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ. How to Live Beyond Yourself We can experience fullness of life by acknowledging our weakness, putting our past behind us, striving toward a worthy goal, and going for broke. Luke 9:1-10:20, Denomination: It will be called the good shepherd calls. and also I feel you need to reach out to her for yourself. Just got home form a conference defending the faith. 2 Timothy 4:5 Verse Concepts read more, Scripture: Go beyond our fears. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. If thats not you, no need to read further, and I apologize in for any offense. (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) How can we be Christians who care? You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. How is this different? Verse Concepts. I have to do more research on how these powerhouse preachers are false teachers), teaching unbiblical prayer practices (I cant find where she teaches women about contemplative prayer~ but Im still lookin! No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. Thank you, Daisy. on that if youre interested. Click on link: #FerventFridays - Week 1 - Your Passion. And because of those issues, I deeply regret that I am not able to recommend her as I would like to. This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. The proper method of teaching Scripture is exegesis. Exegesis is taking a passage of Scripture in context, and leading out of it- teaching what the passage means. No-one is beyond compassion. Finally, you summed up your blog post on why Christian women shouldnt follow, support or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer because she teaches men (though I cant find evidence of this but Im still lookin! If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us? Heres why: 1. You do not have to know whether or not Im a credible source to examine the evidence in light of Scripture and come to the conclusion that she is sinning. But believers are to grow to maturity in their relationship with Christ and their knowlege of His word. Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. I have no doubt that others have confronted her about these things. I can tell that just from your comment. What we believe about that is irrelevant. INTRODUCTION: That, plus being a faithful member of a doctrinally sound church and being taught the Word every week is the best way to learn the truth of Scripture and grow in Christ. Scripture (Romans 16:17-18, 2 John 9-1, Titus 3:10-11, and others) says we are to run from them, not listen to them, and certainly we should not encourage lost people to listen to them, lest they put their faith in a false christ and remain in their sin. Heres why. Ive fixed it (as well as a few others that have expired). Therefore, it is my recommendation that women not follow, support, or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer or Going Beyond Ministries at this time. Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; I think I dont think I feel If youre a Christian, what you think, feel, believe, say, and do is supposed to be governed by Scripture. Genesis 24:1-4. Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? When the Bible says not to do something and you do it anyway, thats a sin. 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How does God regard false teachers, and how are we to deal with them in our personal lives and families, and as the church? (Yikes!). This was very interesting thanks for putting this out there. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. Your sermon reminded me about Peace of God and Love You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. And then help teach it to other women. Romans 8:24 For we God has not instructed women to preach to or instruct men. If you have followed me for any length of time, you have seen me raise this issue repeatedly regarding female Bible teachers and speakers. First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). Do you think the stretching feels good? For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. These are just a few of the dozens of examples available on YouTube and elsewhere of Priscilla Shirer preaching to men. No mention of sitting in silence or listening here nor in any of the other passages in which the Bible teaches about prayer. Mark 8:25 Verse Concepts He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. She was the chosen bride, not for doing the minimum, but for going beyond the expected. - Theres lingering sin. Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Beth and Priscilla both teach a false Jesus and a false gospel. Michelle, It means to trust that the Bible has all the answers and truths we need to live a holy and pleasing life before Godwe don't need anything beyond what God has provided for us in His Word (see 2 Peter 1:3 ). ROger Oakland of understanding the times and a few good men, are putting together a web site. And this faith is . I dont know half of your theological terminology, A sermon examining the fact that we should ever be amazed by Jesus. Having just heard what efforts even St. Paul had to make to run in the Christian race, and how terribly their fathers in the wilderness had failed to meet the requirements of God, they might be inclined to throw up every effort in despair. Priscilla has also admitted in her book Discerning the Voice of God, p.39, that she reads herself into Scripture, an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic eisegesis or narcigesis. Thats why I said may have been. Whether that particular moment in time was, in fact, the moment that Priscilla was introduced to false doctrine and false teachers can be debated, but the fact of the matter is that she came under the influence of false teachers at some point and still unequally yokes herself to them and teaches false doctrine today. My bible teaches those roles but thank you. Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! One of two things happens: either Im ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. I am a born again Christian. I'll start.I'll share with you 2 Scriptures that have given me soooo much comfort and encouragement these past few days and then I'll anxiously wait for you to share what Scripture(s) you have been meditating on lately, received a ton of comfort and encouragement from and/or used to encourage someone else. Why didnt you just study your Bible instead? 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own, It Should Happen Rarely, But It Shouldnt Be Ignored | The Outspoken TULIP, Is Priscilla Shirer false teacher? I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. 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