And Im paying $30 for a part I shouldnt be replacing? Push for 5 seconds then light fixed mine. Oh, I see. Wow it worked great. tried several rimes, will not stay lit. When I checked the water heater the status light was not blinking at all. I suspect that shorting the posts is the way the Sears tech did it the first time. I had to do it 2 times, but it is now making hot water again. Thanks for you insight. Should I replace the Temperature sensor? I havent opened the valve yet out of curiosity but from what I read here, the Capacitor sounds like a good culprit. I let the water sit until the water in it is no longer hotthe last shower usually takes care of that. Didnt work first time but tried it again and let board set for 10 minutes unplugged before relighting pilot. I installed the new valve and cleaned up the mess. Thanks a lot guys for these posts. The reset button only works if the overheating occurred in the heating chamber. Note the code flashes from the LED which indicates the pilot is lit. So are you saying that you got yours from the MFR? I called Whirlpool again, they agreed to ship a new replacement for $30 shipment again! I tried taking off the cover, disconnecting everything, and letting it sit for 8 hours. does this mean I have to replace the entire valve? Setting this one at hot results in about 120F as noted elsewhere, which is hotter than one can stand for continuous exposure. Right, my tank is just over 2 years old the number of posts here, Honeywell would do well to consider a recall and redesign. If that didnt work, or if you already have the new valve and prefer the slightly simpler approach, proceed as follows. I am now one of the afflicted and would not like to have to go through this every 18 months. I dont know if I ever got the red lights flashing. The led light will go off and the pilot will shut off as well. I too thought no big deal to turn my water heater up ONE NOTCH!!! When that gets combined with another situation it can then escape the tight loop it appears to be in and in effect resets itself. Well, hows your repair going? The pins have very thin (about 28-30 gauge) wires that are going to electromagnetic solenoid that has a metal armature that covers a hole. The Deep End is a steampunk intrigue with plenty of reprehensible characters, plots, poisoned stabby things, and a murder mystery where the sleuth has to suspect herself. The Jaccuzi is available at Lowes. It installed easily. I removed the circuit board as you expanded. Connect the RED and WHITE power wires back on the two connections on the circuit board. Remember these guys deal with this everyday. The Thermopile already supplies the current necessary to open the gas valve! So a few notes to help those that are experiencing the same thing: 1. Thanks to this blog and everyones exploits with the Frankenvalve Heres what worked so far for me on a neighbors unit: I opened the cover again, left everything plugged in, took a piece of speaker wire with the plastic off of the ends, and held the wire ends to the top left pin and the top right pin for a few seconds. This unit is a P.O.S.! The pilot would stay lit for a while and then go out with a code 2 blink. Both times there was VERY LITTLE sludge in the bottom of the water heater. taken care of on my own. Plug the cord back in Still working so far. Generally, if youre covered under warranty, you would get the part from the MFR of the water heater. A good business would be to offer a replacement board that has been restored for use to customers blessed with this hunk of junk! I dis-assembled the cover and the circuit board, then tested the actual gas valve by itself using a AA battery and jumper wires (mentioned elsewhere above earlier) ( negative (-) to the bottom of V and positive to left upper pin of V. So I got no click (but supposed to get a click). I didnt mind to pay for the shipping cost, but, what I minded was the device was poorly made. I have well water. What number did you call? The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. THANK YOU! It is sad to see big companies are not really care about the quality and safety of the consumers. Tried disconnecting the old board for an hour. For $75 theyll come out to asses. Slide the power switch off. Called and set appointment. Mounting: Mounting in upright position only. the read Honeywell pilot button lights the pilot, only as long as you hold it in, when I let the button go, the flame goes out. I found the most reliable one is to install the parts without the cover and short the top two pins that go to the pilot light (left) and the main burner (right) and running it for a while. This will insure that the board will not be getting any electrostatic signals from the water heater. Had to pay 30.00 shipping. Hope this doesnt keep happening. But, I didnt know that the new board (white light) had been fixed so it seemingly cant be reset So I think I just screwed myself trying to cut corners and buy a few extra days. ~ diy-home-projects.vwx.info. The light started the all is good single blink and the furnace fired up. This last time, that did not work which led me to this posting and Rauls simple fix. Cheers. free! Kenmore water heater purchased at OSH in 2012. Thank you so much Tyler for this website & Dan for the awesome reset solution & others who contributed their variations of that! I suspect it to be calcium and salts. I also drained some water then flushed a lot. Asked the associate, he said they are all interchangeable. Thanks again to everyones input you all are a life saver! Water Heater Gas Valve Replaces Honeywell Resideo WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 Furnace Heater Gas Valve Shut-off Slow Fast Opening Pilot Spark Hot Surface Ignition Repair Part . Mine quit working last Wednesday (Christmas Eve), with a house full of company. Made in United States. We have a drought in CA and losing 100 gallons (2 TANKS) of water every six months isnt backbreaking, but it sure is a pain that should not be in the design. and then it might come back on or not. I had put a piece of wire between the 2 top ones, not sure if it did anything. The battery trick worked for me. Yes my 20 month old envirotemp gas water (purchased from lowes) heater quit and is displaying 4 flashes of death . I was reading how you guys help one another and just thought AWESOME! BTW I wouldnt try to short everything in sight to GND, because the board and components are conformally coated to seal out moisture, so you dont want to damage the coating. and submit my receipt for them to reimburse the cost (up to $153). I had the first valve replaced under the one year warranty but sears will not replace the valve under the six year warranty. Big thanks from MN! Called the company and basically was told yes we can send a new thermostat/gas control valve for $185.00 + tax +shipping and it may not solve the problem Have a nice day and go for yourself ..what bs . Mineral buildup on the valves temp tensor cap the metal part that sticks into the tank could cause the high limit situation by delaying the rate at which true water temperature reaches the thermal sensor. Charles, Hogwash!! Now I have two fail in 27 months. The two 10 inch jumpers wrapped around the left and right pins was the method that worked for me. Repeat these steps with the new gas valve. this makes it quite easy to press the starter. The pilot on my waterheater went out over night. Isnt there any way to tell the gas valve to quit having a hissy fit and get back to work? After reading many of the comments rather than short anything on the circuit board I just unplugged the red and white input power and waited about 1 hour. I have not touched mine in any way, just been doing watchful observation until I have (and now do have) new valve in hand. Rebooted the pilot and set to just below HOT. Thank you Pioneers, Thank you Tyler. Ive tried everything trying to reset it , although it seems the flame is on . The most I have had to do this is twice before the fault cleared. Takes one screw driver to unscrew the one screw on the bottom of the controller. Now the replacement goes on the fritz. Check closely to see if you have a spark. What powers the light? Pre-Owned. Put the cover back on temporarily with the connector still disconnected. 5. I was successful in clearing the fault code from my Honeywell WV8840B1109 Supply Valve Controller simply by utilizing the single jumper wire method as described in the post from CrankyTenants. Is there a replacement gas valve that people have had success with? What is the easiest way to mimic the thermopile 750 milli volt so I can get the brains working without the pilot on. Probably had sediment on bottom and overworked it. Rheem next day shipped me a new Honeywell control valve. I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. I too will never buy another hot water heater with a Honeywell valve! With the new unit, since it goes into the water tank itself, do you need to drain all the water from the tank before replacing it? Can you believe this crap! Thank you for the excellent instructions, they worked on the first try. Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. The pilot light alone is keeping the solar water warm all night at about 120F. I am extremely grateful for this information! ** sorry, I took no pictures; the capacitor is round, about 1/2 diameter, about 1/2 tall, dark color. Brand New. The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. Of course I would have to pay for service. US Government safety features. The customer service representative explained to me that I needed a new Gas Valve and that if there was a store around me that had the Gas Valve, I could buy there (Menards, etc.) I did order free replacement the part and went for the free ground ship to Calif as well as i had faith in you guys thatthe tips would work before the part got here. detected. That doesnt sound to me like a physical problem with the valves connection to the gas line, so I see no reason the Frankenvalve operation wouldnt work here also. That is the valve mechanism. Direct Replacement: Gas Control Valve Kit (Natural Gas) Brand: AO Smith SKU: 100112336 ( 70) In Stock Get 297 Fri, Mar 3 Order by today, receive 297 by Friday VIEW REPLACEMENT Product Highlights - Natural Gas Description - My house is going into escrow and it worked on my red light control board and saved me from buying a new control board or WH! New valve on the way from Whirlpool. It is held in by one T-15 tork screw that would be uncommon for most folks. If the reset procedure needs to be repeated, I figure it can easily be done in less than 10 minutes. Only the technically adept or handy should do attempt this. I also flushed the tank out twice by turning the supply on with the drain open. Flushing the tank regularly prevents many problems. ENJOY, BIG BIG thanks to you, it worked i fixed it. Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. Just came home one day and the pilot light was out (this is the second time). But get this They now want owners to drain and flush their tanks every 6 months so calcium will not build up on the sensors! I suggest going all the way and getting rid of the old plastic sensor. When the pilot wont light and there are no flashes, the problem is generally that the heating chamber got too hot and tripped the safety interlock. I dont have faith in this product and may need your instructions at a later date. When I came back to check the water heater, I saw that the light was flashing normally. Maybe I can purchase one with the G-D F@*CK*! Now WH is working fine. reinstalled later in the day and it went to one blink clicked the pilot on and turned to hot and presto! It is also an adjustable regulator that insures proper gas pressure for combustion. Thank you thank you! It did not need to be reset (zero resistance across the terminals). Had a 7 blinking light. I have to buy parts, shipping and all. Thanks. Add Sears to Lowes of where not to buy a product.heres, what i did take off the cover on the valve and disconnect the 3 wire connector. A link in your article would have been nice. I think this Honeywell valve is pretty flakey. Honeywell WV8840B1109 Gas Water Heater Control Valve. I nervously turned the controller dial to the 9 oclock position, the burner burst to life, and today I have hot water again. I spoke with Whirlpool (Honeywell gas valve) and they sent me a new valve. I took the circuit board completely out of the unit and let it sit for about an hour. Its a Reliant water heater, but at Menards. The two wires to the controller on the bottom right are the two leads to the thermocouple which provides power to the controller and also senses when the pilot is lit. First, get a new valve. In particular, if you havent drained the sediment off the bottom of the tank, do that first. The pilot stays lit. If the heating chamber gets too hot, the button pops out and the pilot will never light until you push it back in. Disconnect the battery from the Right top pin. After a lot of back and forth they sent me the module which was a breeze to install. Although, it wouldnt hurt to turn the gas off at the water heater line by twisting the valve into the horizontal position. Get it from e-bay, just look at picture to make sure it only has red & white wires to the right and NOwire to left side under COM.. Got the same 4 blinking lights Saturday . ! coming from me! On Thursday plubmer came over to install the worthless Whirlpool 40 gallon piece of junk water heater. Ive had my Rheem 7 months . UPDATE: David Boones method worked great for me, exactly as described. If this problem happens again I plan on wiring a small push-button to the two top terminals and mount it the plastic cover for an easy reset switch! 6. Product Support. CS8840 pilot assemblies are designed for use with this control. I finally decided I would remove the burner unit & giveit a thorough cleaning (blow, brush & vacuum the screen) in the morning. This is the second time mine has gone out in 27 months. Where is it located exactly? Then This year the pilot went out and I tried to re-light by pressing the red knob pointed at PILOT and pressing the square igniter button. I put a speaker wire on the positive then putthe board and on the water heater. i called whirlpool(1877-817-6750), they are sending me the valve free of charge, but its gonna take a couple days to get here. Be gentle; its only plastic. I am deeply in the debt of David Boone and would offer to buy you lunch should we ever meet. As info only for the less mechanical people out there, if you lay down on your back and look through the sight glass window, it makes lighting your pilot very easy. Last year I had the blinks. I believe I was getting 7 flashes until turning burner on and in a short time the flashes went to normal 1 flash. Did you call Honeywell directly? i am walking thru all theses stepsworking on the circuit board nowdrained refilled and this is last effort before callingcircuit board battery?? Only 1 day without hot water thanks to you. WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WT8840B1500 WV8840B1059 WV8840B1117 WV8840B1118. The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by the standing pilot flame. Reinstall the cover. Because, when they shop at Lowes (and other DIY stores), people dont always, every time, ask them, You carry repair parts for this, right? great write up, but I cant find this part anywhere. This worked well. The question now is for how long? Also had flushed out the tank. Why wont the cops shut Whirlpool down? All models of, WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature, The WT8840 is powered from a thermopile heated by, the standing pilot flame. I told them BS, that I was going to install it myself. 2. A plumber I know told me he has replaced dozens of these exact same units. Thanks so much. Hot water is a good thing!! This time they are sending me a new gas valve for free overnight. That was their only solution. Now, instead of the 4-blink I had a seven blink. All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. Turned the dial to low and it started heating. As the days moved on, it continued happening more frequently and each time the red 5-flash error condition persisted longer and longer before resetting itself. Drain a few gallons, a little scale. The thing is still under warranty for parts, but I have to pay shipping, and wait for it to come, and pay a plumber hundreds of dollars to install the fing thing. 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